CARRIE'S HEALING AND MAKING GEM ELIXIRS-

Channeled (05/24/1994)

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Archivist Notes: We kick off February with the second channeling session in a row where the entire first half is taken up a single speaker. In this case we had Karra having a long girl to girl chat where I was gone out of the room. So the entire first side, Karra provides our friend Carrie with some relationship advice about some frustrations Carrie had been taking out on her boyfriend. As a counselor as well as an ambassador on the base, Karra naturally was the perfect person to help Carrie through this difficult time in her life. We start things off with Karra immediately getting to the root cause of Carrie's issues which turns out to be the divorce of her parents. She's been taking it out on her boyfriend as well as her frustration with his job. Karra has great advice involving a bit of psychology based on something she did for her late husband. She reminds Carrie that thanks to telepathy, it's much easier up there with closely linked minds knowing each other's feelings. I get called back into the room so that the healing can begin and, like any good physician, Karra does a quick check of her body before sending a flood of energy in from the feet all the way up to the crown chakra. That flushes out the bad energy so that the two things bothering her the most can be identified which is her knees and her feet. Karra gets to work and makes sure I can watch every step of what she's doing. She uses a healing crystal scalpel to work on her knees and then her feet. We also find out this was after we had healed her cancer through a meta-concert. We end things with a final pumping of energy to charge her up before the second half of the tape. From there it's Tia who will take over as ring mistress.

The sister minds are back together as they call themselves with Tia bringing up the time when her daughter had astral traveled to Carrie's house as a cat. We get into Carrie's love of full moons because of a lunar eclipse taking place that night during a full moon. Tia informs us that such occurrences has gravitational effects in the body we can make a person feel out of sorts. One thing funny we get into is a debate about Insy-Wincy spider. From there, Omal takes over and we get talking about an incident where Omal was channeling through Mark when he was visiting a psychic. We also learned that Korton and Kornas were also in Mark's head but the psychic thought only Omal was channeling. That opens up a discussion about charging money for using psychic gifts since that was something we refused to do. Omal demonstrates by using me as a subject he can quickly get details from. One change we had made was that we had raised the futon inside the pyramid instead of leaving it on the ground so that the person could be channeling from or laying in the Queens chamber. We discussed that before going into gem elixirs and the process of how to make them. Even he had a elixir he wanted us to try out with a astral travel crystal to see if it increased our current abilities. He ends things with a whole Star Trek sendoff involving several of the crew he mimics. That alone is worth the wait. Our ring mistress comes back for a quick chat before bringing on Kiri to finish out the night. What we find out is that this whole session is only part one of a second session that is about to begin where Carrie would be getting a second healing even more intense than the first. One thing of note is a Sirian State University sweatshirt comes into the conversation that Tia had taken from Karra's room. There wasn't actually a sweatshirt from there because that would be very third dimensional but it was a joke sweatshirt Kiri had created. A nice way to end the channeling session.
 

In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra
                                     

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TIA- Ring Mistress MARK CROCKER (Channel)
OMAL RUSS HATFIELD (Archivist)
KARRA CARRIE
KIRI




SIDE 1

1.)(0:00)- Karra gives some relationship advice prior to doing a hands-on healing of our friend Carrie which takes up the entire side of the tape. At one point she has me take over so I could do some training.

SIDE 2

1.)(0:00)- Tia sings Carrie a song she has been working on to sing to her children during a full moon. We discover from her that full moons have a gravitational effect that can pull the body in opposite directions.
2.)(9:47)- Omal describes a meeting with a local psychic during which he was speaking through Mark but also had Korton and Kornas along to ask questions as well. He also explains how gem elixirs are made.
3.)(38:27)- Kiri finishes things by preparing for a second channeling session that was to follow where Karra would again take over the body for more healing. We hear again about a very special sweatshirt.

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SIDE ONE


(Karra works on healing Carrie for the entire side)


Carrie: fantastic.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: I think I'm better than I have ever felt in my entire life.

Karra: that's good, that's good.

Carrie: yeah.

Karra: your aura is looking brighter.

Carrie: is it?

Karra: it's looking cleaner too.

Carrie: good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: I hope so.

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: I really hate to think this has all been wasting.

Karra: oh no, no. I've got every confidence in you.

Carrie: I do too.

Karra: we're getting it totally and utterly whopped. That's better, we've got teamwork now.

Russ: oh good. If you want, I can go up you can have a woman to woman kind of thing.

Karra: okay, girl to girl.

Russ: all right.

Karra: girls talk.

Russ: kill the tape.

Karra: you want it killed?

Carrie: oh, it doesn't matter to me.

Karra: okay, it doesn't matter to me either. Don't worry, bang.

(Carrie laughs)

Karra: okay.

Carrie: this is kind of comfortable actually.

Karra: uh-huh. So, how can you haven't been into the pyramid?

Carrie: I don't know. It's just, I don't know, I feel like right now it's.....

Karra: it's an intrusion.

Carrie: it's just something.........yeah, maybe. I feel I'm trying to do this on my own, you know?

Karra: yeah, why did you snap at Mike the other day?

Carrie: what did I do?

Karra: you snapped at him.

Carrie: when?

Karra: if I'm getting it right from Tia, it was like about a week ago? Kind of bit at him briefly.

Carrie: you know what? I just left the door tonight thinking I've been snapping at him a lot lately......

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: and it has nothing to do with him, it really doesn't.

Karra: that's what I wanted to find out what is the root cause.

Carrie: my parent's divorce. I just get really insecure feelings.

Karra: well, everybody has their own path to walk down. Everybody walks down their own roads and when it's time for two people to separate on their roads, then........

Carrie: I know that and Mike always tells me that we are not my parents. It's just, I guess it's hard you know?

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: because just everything that's going on with my parents and I don't know, I'm just having........I don't know what it is, I snapped at him again tonight.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: I was yelling at him about his job, you know? And that we fight more about than anything which I know is irrelevant and we shouldn't fight about it.

Karra: yeah. See, he works so hard to give you what you want.

Carrie: he does, and he loves me so much and I love him more than anything in the world, it's just sometimes I guess I get mad because he allows his boss to push him around. But then it's like that double standard thing.....

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: that what can you do about it?

Karra: is what can you.....

Carrie: you know? He can't quit because we're moving.

Karra: uh-huh. I've got a little idea.

Carrie: hmmm?

Karra: I know there's something that he likes to eat that you don't, right?

Carrie: that he what?

Karra: he likes to eat that you don't.

Carrie: well, there's a few things actually probably.

Karra: uh-huh. But what's is most favorite?

Carrie: hmmm, that soup, ewhhhhh. That he had it tonight.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: well he cooked it tonight.

Karra: well what I was thinking was that one day when he goes off to work and you've got the time, is you cook it special for him, candlelight dinner for two.

Carrie: well, I did that the other night.

Karra: oh you did?

Carrie: but I didn't do his soup, I did lasagna.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: I prepared it and had it done for him and by the time he got home it was ready.

Karra: yeah, but does he know how much you dislike his soup?

Carrie: yeah.

Karra: so that would be a very good gift for him, wouldn't it?

Carrie: yeah.

Karra: you don't have to sit down and eat it but if you cooked it and went through the trouble.....

Carrie: yeah, I don't think I could eat it.

Karra: yeah, but you went through all that trouble and everything for him to give him one of his favorite dishes.

Carrie: that is a good idea.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: because yeah, I thought I was doing that with the lasagna but I guess he didn't see it the same way I saw it.

Karra: no.

Carrie: because I just.....

Karra: and here's a little bit of subtle manipulation. A couple days before you do it you make a big comment about how much you dislike that soup. Not enough to upset him or anything but just enough that he remembers it when you cook it for him.

Carrie: yeah, okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: I don't know what it is......

Karra: I used to do that for my late husband.

Carrie: that's a good idea. It's a good idea. I don't know what it is, it's really eating me up inside too.

Karra: yeah. But by doing that you see, he realizes that it's not him, that you go that extra mile.

Carrie: yeah, I'm going to have to do that. I think a lot of it also is that we haven't been......when he........I mean, I mean, I even said it tonight and he's so good to me, you know? And I even said it tonight, when he wasn't working, I was always constantly bitching because he wasn't working.....

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: and I was the only one bringing in the money.

Karra: and now......

Carrie: and now that he's working, he's working so much that he comes home, we eat, he goes to bed.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: and it's like that all the time, you know?

Karra: yeah, but he's giving of himself is as much as he can to make you as happy as possible.

Carrie: I know he is. I don't directly get mad at him, I get mad at his job but I direct it towards him.

Karra: yeah, uh-huh.

Carrie: because I mean, his boss totally treats him like crap.

Karra: okay, now here's a little something that you should try is that when he gets home, don't ask him how his day was, don't even ask him anything about his work. If he brings it up, just go yes and listen to what he says but don't draw your own opinions. Don't get involved with what he's complaining about his work. But tell him that his standard of workmanship is probably the best at the place that he works. That he doesn't excellent job. Build up his morale. See, part of a successful relationship is that both of you have to be your best friends, you're lovers, you're cheerleaders for each other, a shoulder to cry on, someone to have lots of fun with, there's a few others that I can think of.

Carrie: you know, we have all those things, I guess sometimes I just..........

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: I don't know, I get wrapped up in my third dimensional self....

Karra: oh, father confessor I think you would call it.

Carrie: yeah, we've been doing a lot of different therapies....

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: I've been trying anyways. The other day......

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: I had a very insecure feeling. I know I shouldn't have had but I did and I didn't want to tell him about it because I didn't want him getting upset. But I couldn't hold it back from him because he's my best friend and I tell him everything. So I did. I pulled him aside and I told him and by me telling him, shocked him. I thought he was going to get mad or upset or something.......

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: or say, "well, how could you think that?" And instead he just looked at me and grabbed me and he held onto me......

Karra: that's nice.

Carrie: and he said, "I'm really glad that you told me".....

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: and he goes, "I love you more than anything in the world". He goes, "you know I would never do that".

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: and it just made me feel so much better that I told him that I felt that way. Because if I wouldn't have told him, I could've dragged it on for a week and then it would've got really worse.

Karra: yeah, it's best to, when you have a feeling inside you, it's best to explain it.

Carrie: yeah.

Karra: because if you hold it and bottle it up, it's like a bubbling cauldron of depression....

Carrie: yeah.

Karra: it gets worse and nasty and horrible and it will go and it explodes.

Carrie: yeah, and sometimes I........sometimes I do that and sometimes that's why I snap at him because I don't say what I'm feeling at that time and I just let it go and go and go and then all of a sudden I just get in this fit of rage, you know? And........

Karra: Tia's just whispered something in my ear that that seems to be a common complaint on your planet, that you hold in your emotions.

Carrie: yeah, it is. People are taught here not to talk about things.

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: I know the way I was raised, I didn't have anybody to talk to growing up and then all of a sudden person comes into my life that wants to know everything and we're working on that. That's also been another thing.....

Karra: Tia says, "take your own advice".

Carrie: what?

Karra: that you gave Mark. Tell him.

Carrie: yeah. I did though, I was proud of myself. I started the other day when I told him that right there.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: instead of making it worse.

Karra: yes.

Carrie: you know? I was really proud of myself because usually I'll just let it eat at me and eat at me inside and then I'll start a fight over something over something that had nothing to do with that.

Karra: uh-huh, yes.

Carrie: you know? And then finally it'll come out but I felt really good by saying that.

Kara yes, that's one of the handy things about telepathy is you don't need to say it because.......

Carrie: people can read it.

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: yeah.

Karra: Tia, Mark, Kiri, they're all closely linked on their frequencies, the same as Russ and myself.

Carrie: uh-huh.

Karra: and I know how he feels and he knows how I feel.

Carrie: yes.

Karra: then there's the terrible threesome.

(Carrie laughs)

Karra: I'm getting nudged in the ribs here from little sis. She's even got her tongue out. Yeah, they're all closely linked as well. They know each other's most nearly all their intimate thoughts because a certain layer that is deep down that is a very private area.

Carrie: yeah.

Karra: when you let somebody into that when you trust them, that is ultimate submission.

Carrie: that would be easier. I had a friend, my friend Rob, that we were telepathically connected but I used to get sometimes upset because I didn't understand. And he would get so close to my intimate spot that it scared me.

Karra: yeah, but that's........even for us up on a higher dimension, it's a very private place. It's where we keep our our most innermost fears.

Carrie: uh-huh.

Karra: like your fear of spiders. Up here, that would be, if it was me, that would be a fear of spiders.

Carrie: right, how did you know I had a fear of spiders?

Karra: Tia told me.

Carrie: how did Tia know?

Karra: because there was an incident....

Carrie: was she there that night?

(Carrie breaks out in laughter)

Carrie: oh God.

Karra: and I made a suggestion about fixing your fear of spiders was putting you in a room full of spiders.

Carrie: oh, was that you? Oh thank you. Yeah, Russ was really enthused about that, he wanted to help me out all the way.

Karra: it was with fun.

Carrie: I instead, I talked to the spider Deva........

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: and I haven't been bothered since.

Karra: it was a little bit of fun. I have a funny sense of humor sometimes.

Carrie: when he told me that I started laughing. He said, "oh yeah, I can help you with that too" and I'm going, "yeah, sure, I'll bet you'd love that". He's like, "yeah, you'd either wake up, your fear would be dead or you would from fear ".

Karra: no, that wasn't my idea, my idea was just to put you in a room full of spiders.

Carrie: yeah, I mean just talking to the spider Deva was enough for me.

Karra: you have to understand that sense of humors up here can be very visual or very mind orientated. Very seldom both.

Carrie: that's okay, I..........

Karra: especially when you can project pictures.

Carrie: oh yeah, I could imagine. I just have enough fun with myself projecting the pictures in my mind let alone trying to project the pictures to somebody else.

Karra: yes, Kiri projects fun occasionally at Mark and Tia of her sitting on top of a mountain in a Viking outfit with a horned helmet with a bucket full of lightning bolts. I believe it's from a book that Mark read.

Carrie: oh yeah.

Karra: she sits up wanting to smite down the mortals as it were.

Carrie: I used to visualize somebody standing high atop a mountain throwing....

Karra: bolts of lightning.

Carrie: yeah, lightning bolts down in the lightning and I used to visualize when I was younger used to say that God was playing a game of bowling...

Karra: uh-huh.

Recall when it was thunder. And I used to visualize.............see, I have a very vivid imagination.

Karra: yes.

Carrie: very......

Karra: Tia's whispering in my ear going......she saying that's a good useful thing for astral travel.

Carrie: imagination? Yeah, it is. I enjoy my imagination. Sometimes I can feel like as I get older it's not as clear.

Karra: I suppose we can get him back in if you want to.

Carrie: sure.

Karra: Russell, Beanpole?

Carrie: but yeah, I am having a hard time dealing with the divorce of my parents.

Karra: yeah, it's something that yeah, you need to accept.

(Karra whistles through Mark's body)

Russ: greetings.

Karra: greetings.

Carrie: hello.

Karra: we're ready. We've talked, we had a good girl talk.

Russ: oh good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: oh, thank you for the advice too.

Karra: oh, you're welcome.

Carrie: I will take you up on that.

Karra: uh-huh. Yeah, I think you'll appreciate that. Okay, water.

Russ: all right, you want the salt or the water?

Karra: salt first and a clean towel. Do you have a mask? Oh sorry, you got one on.

(Carrie chuckles)

Carrie: good one.

Russ: here's the salt.

Karra: okay. Okay, we're only going to give you a light, physical check out. We're going to only drain a little bit of energy as you don't need that much in the way of draining. We're going to let you in on a little secret, something we were afraid........I was afraid that I would have to do and that was actually drain each individual chakra by working instead of pulling the energy up from the root chakra all the way up to the crown chakra, working on each individual chakra. And that is quite a strange experience. There's a lot of heat involved in the fingertips. Sometimes there's risks that it drains a lot of energy out.

Carrie: that's what you want to do?

Karra: no, that's what we're not going to do.

Carrie: oh okay, I was gonna say I trust you.

Karra: no, that was a last-ditch resort. Ummmm, rosemary and the other water.

Carrie: oh, also the warts are gone.

Karra: hmm, that's good. How's your aloe vera plant doing?

Carrie: I never got it. I ordered one and she never got it up here.

Karra: hmm.

Carrie: people for some reason up here they're saying........I've been to a couple different places, they're saying that tropical plants are impossible to get up here. So I've tried and I'm going to keep trying.

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: but I do have aloe vera gel.

Karra: uh-huh, yeah, that's my next....

Carrie: yeah, I've got to go get some more too. My scar, where the cancer was removed?

Karra: yeah, that should be almost gone by now.

Carrie: it is.....

Karra: oh good.

Carrie: it's like fading so fast so quickly.

(We hear the pyramid get hit)

Karra: oh, I'm sorry Russ.

Russ: that's all right.

Carrie: oh, I've been taking barley in the morning.

Karra: barley?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Karra: you could make beer out of that I've been told.

Carrie: uh-huh. But it's starting to heal me. I drink it in my juice in the morning and it.....

Karra: you get drunk on it?

Carrie: no, it's not quite as fun as beer. It doesn't taste quite as halfway decent as beer.

Karra: okay, all right, energy crystal please? Okay, in between the legs please.

Carrie: I'm going to start growing my own herbs.

Russ: is it working?

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: well not here.

Karra: what happened to the rosemary?

Russ: it's there.

Karra: no, the one that Mark planted.

Russ: it never made it.

Karra: okay, hold onto it, you know how? Right. That's going to be an interesting look, I'll have to kneel. Oh, I hear you've got two friends called Bob and Neil.

(Carrie chuckles again)

Karra: yes. Did you get that thought?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: like it?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: uh-huh. Maybe not quite that tight though. Okay, now then, what we're going to do is we're just going to pull energy through your chakras, okay? So first of all, get that energy ball right in front of your chest, right? You know the spot?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Karra: you know the size, you know the color. Right, now, this is going to be slightly different because we want you to leave it open..........I'll start again. What we're going to do is we're going to get that energy ball to grow but it won't get any brighter. It'll just grow until it's your body size which is about five foot four?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Karra: okay, and we want it to sink down over your whole entire body but, leaving the top open. So there's a little hole in the top of it so it sinks down around your body with a hole in the top.

Carrie: okay.

Karra: okay? Now this may tickle at your feet a little bit because I'm going to be pulling the energy from your root chakra, right? And it's going to be sucking up your feet into your root chakra, to your spleen chakra, to your stomach chakra, to your heart chakra, to your throat chakra, to your brow chakra, to your crown chakra. Did I leave any out?

Russ: no.

Karra: that's it, okay? But it's going to tickle a little bit, all right? And as it's coming in, it's going to be pushing out the bad energy. So, okay, you got the ball?

Carrie: yeah.

Karra: okay, is it sinking down around the body?

Carrie: yep.

Karra: okay, it's open at the top, right? Yeah, I can see it's open. Okay, right. And feel free to giggle.

(Carrie giggles)

Russ: do you want music throughout this thing?

Karra: oh, thank you. Yes, please.

Carrie: what?

Russ: which one?

Karra: Paul Horn.

Russ: go ahead and play it?

Karra: uh-huh. And we're going to count down to the music so that we can do it in time with the music.

Carrie: okay.

Karra: like remember that time when the music that Mark picked out and Kiri picked out?

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: when we started on it was, what was it? The sea one.

(Kara hums a starting tune)

Carrie: oh yeah.

Russ: do you remember?

Carrie: I remember that.

Karra: okay, camera, lights, action. See, that's pretty good. Okay, now close your eyes. It's going to tickle a little bit so if you want to giggle, giggle. Okay, now then, right, that's good, good, that's nice. We've got it on the monitors up here too. Okay, now, feel it slowly moving around your body, feel it nice and tight here with with energy shooting all the way around you. And what it's going to do is it's going to start gradually being sucked up by your feet as I pull energy out of your crown chakra, okay? Here we go, reverse the energy. Pulling it in, sucking up your legs, it's up to your knees, it's almost up to your root chakra, it's at your root chakra. It's pushing that energy from the root chakra up into the spleen chakra, the good energy is following it, it's coming up to your stomach chakra. Hmmm, what have you been eating that's disagreeing with your stomach?

(Carrie chuckles)

Carrie: I don't know, can you tell?

Karra: uh-huh, yes. Coming up from the stomach chakra, coming up to your heart chakra, going up nice and slowly, all the way up to your heart chakra, it's at your heart chakra. Listen to it going beat,
beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, beat. Okay, it's up to your heart chakra. You've got the good energy pushing out the bad energy. It's coming up to your throat chakra, it's at your throat chakra. Coming up to your brow chakra. It's at your brow chakra, at your brow chakra. Now I going to pull out all that energy. Go all the way up and I'm going to run it all the way down through Mark's body out through his feet out to the backyard. So I'm going to have to keep pulling energy from around you to flush Mark's system or he's going to be feeling really strange. So the energy that I'm pulling, I know it's your energy but we'll replace it in a minute. Make you feel good probably when you get all that bad energy out of your system. Okay, now again, we want you to visualize in the same place as always that big energy ball. Okay, and what we're going to do this time is we're going to split it up and we're going on a hunt and seek mission. We're gonna hunt down anywhere where you feel bad.

Carrie: okay.

Karra: all right? Such as your stomach.

Carrie: it's my whole body.

Karra: your whole body feels bad? Why?

Carrie: well, everything. Just I've got so many things wrong with me that I need........I need to work on.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: you know? I've got arthritis in my knees.

Karra: okay, you knees, huh?

Carrie: my knees, my jaw, my chest my.....

(Carrie breaks out in laughter)

Carrie: I hate to say but it's true, I don't know why.

Karra: okay, we're going to work on your knees and get rid of some of that pain. Now, watch Russ. There, okay.

Carrie: my jaw's been bothering me the most lately though because I had TMJ that's gotten worse.

Karra: perhaps you shouldn't talk so much, sorry.

Carrie: that's what my boyfriend says too.

Karra: okay. Okay, now whereabouts are you knees does it hurt?

Carrie: around my kneecaps.

Karra: here?

Carrie: just kind of like all the way around it? Not on the kneecaps but all around the sides and stuff.

Karra: around here?

Carrie: yeah.

Karra: now first of all, we're going to get the energy flowing through this crystal which is going to kind of make your knee feel warm. Start to feel the energy flowing, getting wrinkles here. Now, notice how the fingers are placed, Russ. Okay, can you feel anything there?

Carrie: can I?

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: oh yeah, I can totally feel it.

Karra: you feel the energy flowing up?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: I'm feeling it a lot actually.

Karra: it's warming up nicely,huh?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Karra: move the side like a paintbrush, up there and again. And then the third time and on the other side.......once, twice, three times. And we're going to pause on this knee for a second and we're going to move over to the other knee, okay? Did you used to play volleyball?

Carrie: no, I played basketball.

Karra: and fell on your knees often?

Carrie: yeah.

Karra: also.......

Carrie: played football with the guys a lot too.

Karra: there we go. Now paintbrush, three times. Once, twice, three times. Okay? That's the first step with the healing crystal..........with the scalpel. Now this might feel uncomfortable to start off with. Here we go. Move it there, okay? How's that feel?

Carrie: it feels warm.

Karra: uh-huh. Let me know if it gets too.......that's right there. You're getting quite a bit of pain in there, right?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Karra: I can't say too much because I'm focusing the energy. Okay.

Carrie: are you okay?

Karra: yeah, I'm fine.

Carrie: how weird.

Karra: feels like vibration, right?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Karra: okay? Now we're going to pick up the knee. Now the hands, the way the hands are is quite important because it covers the whole entire knee and a little bit more. The side that we're working on, see? And the way that they overlap, with the thumbs overlapping. The energy comes down through the palms of the hands. Normally, I'd move around to the other side but it obstructs your view. How's that feel?

Carrie: feels great.

Karra: okay. Now I'm going to amp up the energy a bit.

Carrie: the only bad thing about that is that you make my knees feel so good, my feet feel like.........wait, I can feel the pain in my feet more than, you know? It's two things here. I don't know why it's just......

Karra: relax that knee.

Carrie: sorry. It's just because usually they're kind of.......the pain evened out on my feet and my knees.

Karra: okay.

Carrie: what a strange feeling. Wow. And those were your hands?

Karra: uh-huh, not over yet.

(Karra jokes around with Carrie using the little piggy song)

Karra: okay, get its head out of its feet?(?)

Carrie: uh-huh.

Karra: did you give them back to him?

Carrie: I tried.

Karra: yes, I definitely need my hands. Now, if I had bigger hands, which I do up here, it could cover from this little piggy up here all the way down. Here we go. How's that feel?

Carrie: feels great.

(Karra jokes yet again with the little piggy song)

Karra: that's actually a little bit of good laughter.(?)

Carrie: that's the best part.

Karra: how do they feel?

Carrie: they feel better than they've felt in so long.

Karra: okay now, what I going to try to do is I'm going to try, and with the help of Kiri, were going to put some stuff in Mark's brain so it would be more easily accessible.

Carrie: okay.

Karra: okay? Now I would work on your chest but Kiri might get ideas.

(Carrie giggles)

Karra: you know what Kiri can be like sometimes.

Carrie: it's quite all right, I think it's just growing pains.

Karra: what, for Kiri?

Carrie: no, for me. Well for both, I don't know.

Karra: uh-huh. Well, if she lived on your planet, she would be about in your years I think about 60, 70?

Carrie: oh really?

Karra: 80?

Carrie: really?

Karra: well she's only a youngster. Well, I'm only a youngster. How old am I Russ?

Russ: well, in my years, 30?

Karra: and don't you forget it. I'm 35.

Russ: keeping young darling.........

Karra: and Kiri's 34.

Russ: keeping young.

Karra: okay, now how do you feel?

Carrie: like I don't feel like getting up.

Karra: hmmm. Feel pretty relaxed, huh?

Carrie: yeah, I do.

Karra: okay......

Carrie: I have not felt this good in so long.

Karra: now, we're going to pump up your energy. Pump up the energy, pump up the energy......Enya please?

Russ: Enya coming up.

Karra: okay, going to pump up your energy. Right, now, put your hands out in front of you like this and clap.

Carrie: is that part of the therapy?

Karra: part of pumping up the energy.

(We hear Carrie clap)

Carrie: okay.

Karra: pump up the energy. Okay. Right, now, put your hands like this again. Visualize a big energy ball in between your hands. Right, we want it to grow bigger and bigger until it touches your fingertips so it goes out like that slightly, okay? Right, now, suck the energy, oh, I do like this song......

Carrie: I do too.

Karra: suck the energy. That's better. That's enough. Okay, now suck the energy from your fingertips from the ball into your fingertips, okay? Now, nice big energy ball.

Karra: now, don't be surprised if you hear me squeal slightly. Take this light away briefly.

Carrie: you can feel that?

Karra: I can feel the energy from it. Okay, is that energy is still flowing into you?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Karra: okay......

Carrie: my hands are very warm.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay, how much energy is left in the ball? How much energy's left in the ball?

Carrie: none, I was waiting for you.

Karra: okay, throw it away, throw it away.

Carrie: the ball?

Karra: yep, throw the ball away. Go poof. I was just joking about that.

Carrie: oh, it works.

Karra: yeah, get rid of the ball.

Carrie: I got rid of it.

Karra: okay. Right, now I've got a ball here. Okay, now where's the hoop? Sorry, we're having fun down here.

Russ: I can tell, there was this.

Karra: oh well, don't worry too much about it. Okay, now how do you feel?

Carrie: good.

Karra: okay, can you sit up, if you want?

Carrie: yeah. Like I can now.

Karra: how much recording time do we have left?

Russ: you're out.

Karra: we're out?

Russ: out.

Karra: it's dead?

Russ: it is............

            
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SIDE TWO


(Tia starts off the second side with her sister mind)


Tia: well, they monitor you and I come racing down....

Carrie: oh, and tell Athena.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: that she's a beautiful child....

Tia: I will.

Carrie: and that....

Tia: she can only project the images of cats.

Carrie: I knew she was there though.

Tia: uh-huh?

Carrie: that one time....

Tia: the kitten?

Carrie: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: it was so strange. Okay, I'll be right back.

Tia: okay. Insy-Wincy spider went climbing up the spout, down came the rain and washed poor Insy out.

(Tia humms Greensleeves and sings in the meantime)

Carrie: what are you singing?

Tia: oh, it's a little ballad I've been translating into your language. It's a little ballad I sing to my kittens, cubs. The cubs I mean.

Carrie: did you take it to me?

Tia: I was trying. Okay, do you want me to sing it?

Carrie: did I put you on the spot?

Tia: you did a little bit that I like that. Okay, it's easier to sing to the cubs than it is to sing to an audience. Unless an audience of one. Okay, here we go. "Sleep little kittens, oh sleep all night. It's time to sleep for night is here". This is the second verse. "Oh sleep little kittens, oh sleep all night. The grass is green and you're lying in your bed. Oh sleep little kittens, oh sleep all night. Mom is asleep and I go too".

Carrie: thank you.

Tia: that is the end of the second verse. I get confused in translating the first verse. Okay, questions and answers then.

(Tia says hi to Russ in Durondedunn as he sits down)

Russ: that's better. Hello love.

(Tia says hi once again in Durondedunn)

Carrie: is there any significant to my birthday and the lunar eclipse that we have and the beginning of the end of the world?

Tia: possibly.

Carrie: you can't tell me, huh?

Tia: no.

Russ: it's not your lunar eclipse.

Carrie: huh?

Russ: it's not supposed to be a lunar eclipse.

Carrie: oh.

Tia: no, it was a solar eclipse on your birth, isn't it?

Carrie: was it a solar eclipse?

Tia: yeah, it was during the daytime.

Carrie: yeah.

Tia: yeah, it was a solar eclipse.

Russ: it's a lunar eclipse tonight.

Carrie: oh, okay. Tonight's a lunar eclipse? How weird.

Tia: oh, can we go out to watch, can we go out to watch, what time?

Russ: it's a while until we get a good look and it doesn't happen until a quarter to nine but you can't see the moon from my house.

(Tia expresses her disappointment in Durondedunn)

Carrie: how weird? That's really weird.

Tia: so, any more questions?

Russ: oh yeah, I've got one. Okay, since we have a full moon and a lunar eclipse brought together....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it tends to achieve a bunch of energy buildup.

Tia: it really messes things up, doesn't it?

Russ: right. Now how do you achieve equilibrium during this sort of period?

Tia: relax, be cool, be hip and shut things off. So what? Send her roses.

Russ: good idea.

Tia: uh-huh. Does she work tomorrow?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: take her a dozen red roses. Make sure she isn't there.

Carrie: or have have them sent to her.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: I've seen them.

Russ: there in a garden next door. I hate full moons.

Carrie: do you really?

Tia: oh, they're fun.

Carrie: I love full moons.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: I don't know why.

Tia: I used to be a werecat but I'm alright now.

Carrie: oh, my godmother...

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: she has strong psychic abilities but she's very.......

Tia: suppressed.

Carrie: yeah and she hates full moons. She gets freaked out on full moons but me and my mom have always loved full moons. I mean just for some reason........

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: I've always felt like really........

Tia: it's mainly a psychological thing.

Carrie: Yep.

Tia: admittedly, there are strange gravitational effects that pulls your body in one way and another way and your astral body too so things feel out of align.

Carrie: uh-huh.

Tia: but feeling that something bad's going to happen is psychological. It's up to the individual on what happens.

Carrie: well she always thinks something's going to happen to me.

Tia: like I said, used to be a werecat but I'm alright.

(Tia meows)

Tia: I've got another song to sing. Insy-Wincy spider went climbing up the spout, down came the rain and washed poor Insy out.

Carrie: I have a question about that song.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: my boyfriend and I have a debate going about Insy-Wincy spider. Does it go inside the spout.........

Tia: yeah.

Carrie: or outside the spout?

Tia: it climbs up the inside.

Carrie: the inside?

Tia: yeah, it climbs from the inside up the spout.

Carrie: because a cartoon that we saw showed it climbing on the outside and I always thought it was on the outside.

Tia: Insy-Wincy spider went climbing up the spout. It doesn't say.

Carrie: yeah, that's it I told him.

Russ: no, it's climbing up the inside of the spout, it does say.

Tia: down came the rain and washed poor Insy......yes it does.

Carrie: but it could be the rain from the outside too. It could just be raining....

Russ: no, it would wash him down, it wouldn't wash him out.

Carrie: ohhhhh.

Russ: it would have to be inside to be washed out.

Carrie: I have to admit that I was wrong? I hate that.

Tia: I never admit when I'm wrong. Isn't that so, Russ?

Carrie: I feel I have to because it's part of my therapy.

Tia: uh-huh. I like doing it. Going to shave this off.

Russ: want a razor? I've got an electric razor.

Tia: really goof him up, wouldn't it?

Carrie: you can really mess him up.

Tia: I don't think he cares actually.

Carrie: I can't imagine him without it.

Tia: you couldn't?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Tia: he does shave it off from time to time.

Carrie: really? I've never seen it.

Tia: I'll ask him to shave it off. "Mark, can you shave off your mustache for me?"

(Tia says something in Durondedunn)

Tia: I've been teaching him Durondedunn.

Carrie: what is that?

Tia: it's my home language.

Carrie: oh.

Tia: my home planet.

Carrie: where do you come from?

Tia: Durondedunn.

Carrie: oh, I thought you were Sirian.

Tia: no, I'm not a Sirian.

Carrie: oh, that's just Kiri and Kara.

Tia: uh-huh. Now, are we all sitting comfortably?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Tia: he's not, he's lying comfortably. Okay, now, you got have any more questions?

Russ: I haven't.

Tia: well, I'm Ring Mistress if you think of anything. I'll be back and yes, I'm in an excellent mood.

Carrie: all good.

Tia: uh-huh. The kittens are fine, ask me about that later on.

Russ: okay.




(Omal comes on to spaek to Carrie)



Omal: greetings and felicitations, Russ, Carrie.

Russ: hi Omal.

Carrie: hi.

Omal: greetings. Didn't we have fun the other night? You weren't there unfortunately.

Russ: you mean over at.......?

Omal: yes.

Russ: oh.

Omal: and when I say we I mean we.

Russ: I never even smiled at that fun stuff.

Omal: what do you wish to know?

Russ: how about your impressions?

Omal: your impressions is that the lady, Rosie......

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: has an interest in financial gain.

Russ: correct.

Carrie: I couldn't really tell.

Omal: she was unaware that..........they were all unaware that it was just not myself there, there was three of us present and I was acting as a spokesman for the other two people.

Russ: who were the other two people?

Omal: Korton and Kornas.

Russ: ahhh.

Omal: I informed them that Korton was unavailable which was a necessary part of the deception which can be communicated now.

Russ: I see.

Omal: so when I answered questions, I would answer from Korton or Kornas.

Russ: ahh. I just assumed it went well.

Omal: it was entertaining.

Russ: something about an interrogation or something.

Omal: you could say that.

Russ: ahh.

Carrie: you didn't go Russ?

Russ: no, I had to work something out.

Carrie: ohh.

Russ: all right, how about something they did participate in.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that would be the day before on Saturday.

Omal: yes.

Russ: how about your impressions on that?

Omal: my impressions were that the lady again.........

Russ: same problem as Rosie?

Omal: yes. She exaggerates her gifts as part of the sales pitch.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: she has quite a talent for coercion which is an aid to help her exaggerate her capabilities.

Russ: but you're not susceptible for such things.

Omal: yes. Her mate, husband?

Russ: Barry, yes.

Omal: yes.......is more talented than she is.

Russ: that's hard to believe.

Omal: but he keeps it very quiet because she dominates him.

Russ: well that's obvious yes, but what are his gifts? I mean besides his engineering, intelligence and wanting to know things.

Omal: those in themselves are quite important gifts and he has the gift of being able to manifest his ideas into a physical form. Even though it is by using his fingers instead of his mind. But it is a focus for his manifestation.

Russ: it's a gift.

Carrie: I can see it, yeah.

Omal: well, he cannot create, cannot create from his mind.....

Russ: right.

Omal: but from his fingers flows the capability to create things.

Russ: hmm.

Carrie: very useful tools.

Omal: very useful tools. But.....

Carrie: but without his mind, he wouldn't be able to use his hands.

Omal: correct.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: it is a part of manifestation.

Carrie: is this the woman that could read auras?

Omal: yes.

Russ: yeah.

Carrie: could she really do it?

Omal: yes.

Carrie: oh really?

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: that would be fascinating.

Omal: very unfortunate for her though.

Russ: yes, what was that.......?

Carrie: that would be kind of hard I guess.

Russ: because Kiri and Karra were in, not Mark.

Omal: yes.

Carrie: yeah, that's what........so what was that? What did she feel about that?

Omal: they were struggling on who was going to use the eyes most.

Carrie: does she have to concentrate or could she just do it?

Omal: she can just do it most of the time but it is easier for her to concentrate.

Russ: but what exactly was she perceiving throughout all that?

Omal: changes in aura. Changes in brightness and intensity.

Carrie: did she get confused?

Omal: yes.

Russ: well, she charges what? Sixty bucks an hour to read auras.

Carrie: oh my God.

Russ: doesn't include a tape or I would've brought my tape recorder to tape.

Carrie: oh my God.

Omal: I assume from your gasp of astonishment that that is a lot?

Carrie: well, I just have never when I was growing up when I was in high school.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: I have abilities that were not....you know, at times they were suppressed but at other times they work.

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: and a lot of my friends who knew of the abilities, so they used to tell me to charge people money and stuff and I never really believed in that.

Omal: that is part of the higher level of thinking.

Carrie: what, not believing in it?

Russ: no, not charging.

Omal: not charging.

Carrie: oh, not charging? See, yeah, I didn't really believe in it because like, this was a gift that I have, and if I choose I will share it with other people.

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: I will not, "give me all your money and I will tell you what I know".

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: that's just not right.

Omal: well, anybody can do that.

Carrie: basically yeah, it's like their psychic hotlines or something.

Omal: it is easy to be able to soothe one's self by using a nice aura. You sooth other people by using words.

Carrie: uh-huh. Oh yeah, because I could do it......

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: and I could see it. Especially somebody who is going through traumatic times that makes it or something like that.

Omal: exactly.

Carrie: and you find their weaknesses and you feed off it and you give them what they want to hear......

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: but you're charging an arm an a leg.

Omal: the way that you do that is that first of all, tell me, what is going on in your life at the moment?

Carrie: yeah.

Omal: Karra does that and she is generally interested and by doing that, she can analyze the information and come up with suitable sounds to encourage you to feel better and she can also come up with ways and means of correcting your problem and seeing what possible outcomes there are.

Carrie: see, I can do that too.

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: by just body language, by the way a person speaks......

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: the tone of their voice. Just the feeling you get from them....

Omal: yes.

Carrie: you can take their whole life and read it.

Omal: it is easy to do, anybody can do it. You don't have to be psychic, you have to be reasonably intelligent. So Russ, tell me, what's upsetting you at the moment?

Russ: well, her throwing a fit kind of caused a little bit of mental instability.

Omal: but, do you see what I did there? That was just a pure demonstration.

Carrie: uh-huh.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: I got Russ to tell me what what is going on in his life, that he is having girlfriend problems.

Carrie: no, that's not true because I know.......actually, I don't even know, I can ask them and they just start going off.

Omal: people like to talk about themselves.

Carrie: yeah. And people always tell me that I have that comforting, peaceful feeling. For some reason, people tell me it's easy to me.

Omal: because you listen.

Carrie: yeah, and also I'm a very upbeat person and they feel I won't judge them or I won't go tell which I don't.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: but for some reason people have always felt that I had a very strong shoulder to lean on.

Omal: to imitate somebody, "hi guys, what's happening? How are you doing?"

Russ: Kiri.

Omal: yes. And she is very upbeat and very easy to talk to.

Carrie: yeah, yeah.

Omal: underneath her light flakiness, is a very deep thinker that achieves a lot and can come up with answers very quickly.

Carrie: uh-huh.

Omal: the same with Tia. She's light, bouncy, cheerful.

Carrie: uh-huh.

Omal: irreverent at times, but yet underneath those layers there is a lot that goes on.

Carrie: yeah.

Omal: the fact that she has a problem with her pride from time to time is part of her learning.

Russ: part of her charm too.

Omal: you wouldn't have said that last week.

Russ: no, I thought she was very charming.

Omal: sarcasm.

(Everybody chuckles)

Russ: was it that noticeable?

Omal: sarcasm.

Russ: oh, I've got a joke for you Omal.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: why don't blind people skydive?

Omal: I don't know.

Russ: scares the hell out of their dogs.

Carrie: oh God.

Carrie: that's horrible.

Omal: tell Mark at the end of the channeling session that he is free to tell Laura that I was not alone when I was channeling. Explain to them.

Russ: alrighty.

Omal: because it may clear up some of the confusion of Laura.

Russ: oh, okay. Why? Was the answers she was getting kind of bizarre?

Omal: not bizarre, but it seemed as if, to me at least, that it was confusing for them slightly.......

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: but I was not alone.

Russ: oh.

Omal: okay.

Russ: all right. Now, you'll notice that we have made some adjustments in the futon.

Omal: yes.

Carrie: some?

Russ: just one.

Omal: it is about five miles higher.

Carrie: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so anyway, with the new addition that we've made in here......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what position does it put the person now? At the Queen's chamber?

Omal: yes.

Carrie: what is the Queen's chamber?

Russ: maybe you could explain this better than I could.

Omal: no, let's hear your explanation.

Russ: okay. In the great pyramid of Giza, you know the various chambers that are there. The Queen's chamber, the King's chamber, the antechamber....

Carrie: uh-huh.

Russ: chambermaids.

Omal: the antechamber is where they keep the big ants with long antennas.

(Carrie chuckles)

Russ: that's where the King's aunt used to sleep.

Carrie: uh-hmmm.

Omal: very droll.

Russ: okay, and the Queen's chamber was below the King's chamber and the Queen's chamber has a particular power field around it as does the King's chamber.

Carrie: uh-hmm.

Russ: now, having a person's body within the Queen's chamber......

Omal: King's chamber would be about here.

Russ: right. Affects the body in one way....

Omal: it's roughly around about the heart area.

Russ: right, so it's an improvement then......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: over what we had before which was down somewhere near the cellar or something.

Omal: yes, or the buyer.

Russ: so as you can see, we've got a bit of a difference now so.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what I'm interested in is seeing what effects that'll have upon the body compared to what it used to have.

Omal: well, it is best to ask the host, the subject that is within when they return and the patient which will be within.

Russ: that's true.

Omal: okay, let us proceed with questions.

Russ: okay, Carrie, your turn.

(Carrie laughs)

Carrie: well.....

Omal: I am in, as you would say, an excellent mood.

Russ: yes, very.

Carrie: I see this.

Omal: she is back at present.

Russ: oh, good.

Carrie: I don't know.

Russ: okay.....

Carrie: I don't really have anything.

Russ: with the elixir being used in the tea.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: does heating up the elixir up after being made........?

Omal: it is like distilling.

Carrie: ahhhh.

Russ: okay, good.

Omal: condenses it even more.

Russ: oh, it does? So Carrie's increased getting this might be attributed to a bit more distilled healing water.

Omal: yes.

Russ: oh good. It was worrying me there for a second.

Omal: perhaps you ought to invite Mary Jo over for a cup of hot tea.

Russ: yes, that would do it.

Carrie: oh I see, I take it you've heard?

Russ: yes, Omal heard the whole story.

Carrie: uh-huh.

Omal: yes, it was quite entertaining.

Russ: you managed to calm her down I noticed after a while.

Carrie: it was definitely an adrenaline rush while I was there, that's for sure.

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: I guess I need that every once in a while.

Omal: we were referring to an incident that Mary Jo had with some elixir here.

Carrie: ohhh.

Russ: she had some coral and went off on the deep end too.

Carrie: ohhh.

Russ: her issue with coral. All right, now then, so the difference between the two elixirs is pronounced in the fact that one will increase energy and one will increase healing......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now, how shall we work with the other elixir in the same way? Make some tea out of it?

Omal: we will drink that neat.

Russ: oh, pretty good Omal, catching that term.

Carrie: how do you make elixers?

Omal: what you do, is you get some distilled water.....

Carrie: uh-huh.

Omal: you place a crystal in it. For example, a big, white healing crystal.

Carrie: okay.

Omal: you place it out in the sun and and then a full moon. Failing a full moon a pyramid will do. It is not as efficient. And after a set period of time, preferably twelve hours of sunlight and 12 hours of moonlight, full moonlight, it will drain out a certain amount of the energy into the water. You then bottle the water, drink it and have a party.

Russ: that's for sure.

Carrie: oh, okay.

Russ: two questions.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: the first one is.......oh, I've invited our money hungry friend to a channeling session next Tuesday.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: so that she can experience what a true channeling session is like without the use of having to pay hard cash to see one.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and hopefully gain some higher knowledge that maybe will help her consciousness......

Omal: I doubt it very much.

Russ: agreed, but it might explain some things to her because she has a very bad impression about Ashtar Command right now........

Omal: yes, another interrogation session.

Carrie: well I was just thinking when you said that, I don't even know the woman but what I got from her, I would think she would be, if she came to something like this, she sounds like the type of person that she believes that she knows all?

Omal: yes, would be another Mike incident.

Carrie: and then if you came to bitch, she would pick at it and try at it even though she knows you guys know what you're doing and what you're talking about but yet she would not be committed.

Omal: yes, it would be another Mike session.

Russ: right but with a difference and that of the fact that this lady........

Omal: she is already an operant.

Russ: right, plus she puts out a newsletter.

Carrie: that might even be worse though because I found some people that are so high on themselves when they're like that.........

Omal: get offended.

Carrie: yeah, and.......

Omal: Carrie listen, Russ listen to the voice of wisdom. I am all for it yes but, listen to what Carrie is saying.

Russ: but right now I feel like it's an 80% chance that there will never, ever, ever be a session with her.

Omal: it is very likely.

Russ: right. So, I make the offer in goodwill knowing it won't be accepted but if it is......

Carrie: yeah, I think she'd probably avoid you.

Russ: right, I agree but if it is accepted, then there is a reason for it to be accepted.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and we'll go with it from there.

Omal: okay.

Russ: second question.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I have a friend of mine who works at a local supermarket who's been having some very strange dreams and one in particular in which she has many questions she's asking herself, some of which I cannot answer. And that is the fact that, let me relate quickly the dream that she had, and that is that she was asleep during the daytime and suddenly she found herself awake but she was still asleep......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and she was looking at her body. And there was somebody she saw in the hall laughing at her and she wanted to get up and call somebody to tell them that she felt very weird about this person.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but she couldn't because she was still asleep. And she was looking around, saw the foam and felt very weird about it she was but it was nothing she could do.

Omal: she was dreaming that she was astral traveling, correct?

Russ: uh-huh, right, without being able to get out of her body.

Carrie: dreams like that are so scary.

Russ: like she was trapped. So then she put.......she'd done a lot of studying, I've helped her with a bit.........she put a white light over her. Helped her get out of that mode. But then she read about an incident from somebody in a magazine article who had the exact same thing and they said it was an alien abduction.

Carrie: ooohhhh, God, I hope not. That would mean I would be abducted.

Omal: no, you would not be abducted.

Carrie: because I've had dreams like that that are just so weird. Like that exactly, I could totally picture it.

Omal: there are numerous possibilities. One is that she is having man problems in her life and the person standing outside the room is somebody that is intimidating her, that is making her feel uncomfortable. Another one is that it is possibly a guardian watching over her that is keeping his distance because he knows that his energy, despite his good intentions, his energy that he gives off is negative energy. The third possibility is yes, it is a possible abduction. But, that is also very unlikely.

Carrie: can I say what I think?

Omal: go ahead.

Carrie: I was gonna say that when I had dreams like that......

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: and I came to the conclusion one time that for me, this might not be for her, but for me I felt like it was me who was trapped. I was trapping myself.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: I was standing outside of my body, there was another person, say take the person in the hallway laughing, that is your other being laughing at you and one body feeling helpless trying to get up, the other body in the middle and the other body, it's like you within yourself within walls.

Omal: yes. That you have trapped yourself within your own creation.

Carrie: yeah, if you're battling with anything inside of yourself at that time, then that could be a way of your subconscious mind taking you and dividing you and trying to, in a dream state.......

Omal: overcome that.

Carrie: yeah. Because there are many of times that you take it, you look at it and you think you feel like that in some way........

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: like each being in that dream......

Omal: represents a part of yourself.

Carrie: exactly. My dreams are very important to me.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Carrie: and I've come to find out that a lot of the things in your dreams that you have don't always represent what you think it might.

Omal: yes, because it is your subconscious level.

Carrie: exactly.

Omal: first of all, ask her if she's got problems in her life with either with a man or another woman.

Russ: okay.

Omal: and if that is so, then her worries are impinging on her dreams. To change the subject slightly, I want to try an experiment......

Russ: okay.

Omal: with an astral travel crystal. I want to make an elixir out of it.....

Russ: ohhh.

Omal: to see if it would help. Trying to get a feel for the energy within it.

Carrie: I've got some astral projection incense.

Omal: isn't that a game for for all the family?

Carrie: no, that's incest.

Omal: oh. Okay, any more questions?

Russ: no, that's it for me.

Omal: okay, I will put the one with the flashing tail back in. Live long and prosper.

Russ: oh, and if you can, try to monitor.........

Carrie: goodbye Omal.

Omal: goodbye, live long and prosper.

Russ: and if you get a chance, the last, final episode of Star Trek, the next generation is off tomorrow if you want to monitor it.

Omal: I will be monitoring it with pleasure and enjoyment with my guest.

Russ: excellent, good.

Omal: "because I feel that it would be prudent at this juncture to take a serious interest in this program".

Russ: excellent, excellent. Well, it's historical so everyone will be watching on the planet.

Omal: a number of people already have. It has already been broadcasted.

Russ: ahh. Okay, excellent. Well, we'll be watching with interest.

Omal: "Omal to Enterprise, beam me up Scotty". "Hey, I'd like to Omal, but I don't know how to be pugnacious and besides, there's a body too close to you". "Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a gynecologist".

(Russ is laughing hard)

Omal: "this is Omal for NTC 1701 signing off.

Carrie: is that Omal still?




(Tia switches with Omal as Karra gets ready)


Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: can we wait until the channeling session's over a bit?

Carrie: sure.

Tia: okay.

Russ: how's his energy level by the way?

Tia: fine. I think him taking a nap was a good thing. It wasn't a hundred percent when he started but it's a lot better than it was the other night.

Russ: oh good, good, good.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, any questions for me?

Russ: yeah, crystal elixirs with a astral travel crystal.

Tia: oh yeah, he was talking about that, wasn't he?

Russ: right.

Tia: hmm.

Russ: any input from the astral travel master, mistress herself?

Tia: mistress yes. I've got a whip and handcuffs.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: and.......sorry, did you get that picture too?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Tia: didn't mean to transmit.

Carrie: do you know there's a hair stuck inside the frame of this picture?

Tia: you sure it's........?

Russ: that's Karra's hair.

Carrie: well, how did Karra get her here in the picture?

Russ: well it's a picture of Karra, isn't it?

Carrie: well yeah, but.......

(Russ laughs)

Tia: don't ask me.

Russ: well Tia, you hang out here a lot, don't you?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it might be Tia's hair.

Carrie: here?

Russ: sure.

Tia: what color is it?

Russ: yeah.

Carrie: black.

Russ: nope.

Tia: nope.

Russ: no.

Carrie: neither one? What color is your guy's hair anyway?

Tia: I'm a strawberry blonde.

Carrie: I know that about you.

Tia: Karra, she's nearer to a blonde than a strawberry blonde.

Carrie: really? I always pictured her.....I don't know.

Tia: and Kiri at the moment......

Russ: you never know what she's going to be.

Tia: yeah, although her natural hair is close to her sisters. A touch more red in it though.

Carrie: hmmm.

Tia: but still closer to blonde than red.

Carrie: so who's hair, Russ?

Russ: got me.

Carrie: it's none of their's.

Russ: could be anyone of the guests that come down here.

Tia: how long is it?

Carrie: no, because it's really........it's kind of short but it's curled but it's inside the frame, in between the frame and the picture. So, if it was any number of guests that came in.....

Russ: well Tia, fes up.

Tia: I'm a pure strawberry blonde.

(Carrie breaks out into hilarious laughter)

Carrie: can Mark verify that?

Tia: uh-huh, I've never dyed my hair.

Carrie: no, I think it's too long for that. Really it looks......

Tia: you're about as red as I am, aren't you?

Carrie: huh?

Tia: no, you're not nearly as red as I am. Oh well.

Carrie: great minds think alike.

Tia: uh-huh. I'm going to go and grab a Sirian State University sweatshirt.

Carrie: a Sirius.....?

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: oh, okay.

Tia: it's a joke. It's from an incident that occurred up here recently. Okay, I'm going to hand over.

Russ: okay love, see you later.





(Kiri wraps things up as usual)


Russ: watch your head.

Kiri: why?

Russ: there's a light above it.

Kiri: oh, so there is. Greetings.

Russ: hi darling.

Kiri: hey.

Russ: hey.

Carrie: Karra?

Kiri: no.

Carrie: Kiri.

Kiri: Kiri, and I'm not quite........

Carrie: when you guys start channeling here, the only one I can tell which comes in is Tia because she giggles makes me giggle.

Kiri: she giggles at everything at the moment. She thinks life is funny.

Carrie: that's a kick way to live.

Russ: darling, you dye your hair, don't you?

Kiri: from time to time, yeah.

Russ: black?

(More laughter ensues)

Russ: just wondering.

Carrie: I'm sorry.

Kiri: yeah, I was hoping to get pregnant again. We're trying.

Carrie: another child?

Kiri: I've just got the one.

Carrie: oh, okay.

Kiri: yeah, Alex. Alex the toddler, the thug.

Carrie: I know, I know, but I did good. I blew up.......my lungs are strong. I blew up that air mattress there that Russ started and had a really hard time doing it.

Russ: she got about ten breaths in.

Carrie: uh-uh. My breaths were ten seconds longer than yours were.

Russ: she blew the pillow up.

Carrie: yeah, and then he uh-blew it.

Kiri: stick of dynamite, huh? Yeah, sometimes it feels like that. Sorry.

Russ: ha, ha, ha, that is funny.

Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, let's get down to business.

Russ: okay. All right, what's up?

Kiri: well, not me, that's for sure.

Russ: okay, so you're going to help Karra here during this?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: all right. Now, should I start getting everything prepped?

Kiri: oh, we can wait until the tape runs out which should be pretty soon.

Russ: okay, fair enough.

Kiri: uh-huh. And then, I'll change over for Karra and Kara will talk with Carrie and then we'll get onto a channeling session.

Russ: well good....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: great.

(Kiri makes a sound of surprise)

Russ: what?

Kiri: Tia.

Russ: oh.

Kiri: well, she went out and she was wearing a toga and now she's come back with Karra's State....

Russ: Sirian State.

Kiri: Sirian State.

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: yeah. I'm going to have to send off and get a new one. And talking of sending things off to Sirius, where is my wine?

Russ: it hasn't got there yet?

Kiri: no.

Russ: well, ask your dad.

Kiri: he's busy.

Russ: all right, I'll get Nazreal to take me up there. We'll do a special flight.

Kiri: okay. Yeah, I also want you to try out that helmet.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: all right, you want to explain to me a little bit......no, I'll wait.........


 

THE TAPE ENDS


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